Dear Stan, I'll be delighted to join you at BKVI next Friday, before your talk. Olivia cannot make it, due to another commitment. About the two issues, I see theory and experiment as two inseparable parts of science. I have little doubt that, just as quantum theory says, the empirical data is describable in classical terms, and that certain empirical one-to-one correspondences between brain activity and aspects of conscious experience will come to be known with increasing precision, and even that classical modelling of brain activity down to some level of size will seem to give a reasonably coherent account of what is going on, even though the underlying process is fundamentally quantum mechanical. Indeed, one must look very hard to identify aspects of the empirically measurable relationships where the phenomena is not equally explainable by *all* of the proposed interpretations of QM, and also by some quasi-classical account that represents the chemical processes by some classical statistical microprocess, or perhaps represents whole neurons themselves by some such classical model. But there are differences in principle! So I think it becomes of interest to identify phenomena that will allow the very profound basic dynamical differences to be detected. On the basis of what you might call metaphysical considerations, but what I would prefer to call considerations of theoretical coherence, I suspect that when these sensitive measurements are carried out then they will favor the sort of model of mind/brain dynamics that I see as the `most natural' possibility. This is a typical interplay between the empirical and theoretical sides of science, where the rough empirical facts are first established, and then theorists, on the basis of theoretical coherence or naturalness or simpicity of one kind or another, propose theories that allow the all the empirically known facts to be `explained' in terms of theoretical models based on a few basic principles, and propose possible new experiments that are sensitive to the differences between competing theories. At the present time we are, in brain science, at the empirical stage that is analogous to time before the discoveries by Kepler of the very detailed regularities that bear his name, and that allowed Newton's laws to be distinguished from a infinitude of alternative conjectures. We will have to identify precise measurement that will distinguish competing models, so I think that the effort to spell out the competing theories, in order to determine what the distinguishing experiments are, is a key part of the theoretical side of the scientific effort to understand consciousness. Best, Henry